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Poster: deadheadnorway Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A stupid question perhaps.

A stupid question perhaps, but I am newbie here, so I will take a chance and ask anyway. As far as I know, neither the magnificent 2-26-1977 Swing Auditorium concert, or the fantastic 5-8-77 Barton Hall, Cornell University have been released commercially. These are in my ears some of the best shows Gd ever played, and according to the ratings on this site many agree with this. So why have they not been released commercially?? Is there something here that I do not know?

Kind regards from the land of the midnight sun.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I don't know about 2/26/77, but in the past David Lemieux repeatedly said that 5/8/77 was not in the Vault.

For instance:

Q - You said in your interview with Blair that the famous May 7th, 8th, and 9th, 1977 shows are not in the vault.

David Lemieux - Nor is the 5th.

Q - Does anyone know where they are?

David Lemieux - I’m sure they do. I don’t. Well, I kind of know, but they’re not here unfortunately, and nobody’s ever made an attempt to get them back to us.

Or this interview with Jeffrey Norman:

Norman - We're not interested in putting out anything that we don't have as masters... Everybody talks about how we should put out Cornell 5/8/77, for instance. But we don't have the master to this in the Vault. David Lemieux may have a DAT copy, but not the master.

Now, those interviews were back in 2001. Since then, though, I think the 5/8/77 Dancing in the Streets was used as a bonus on the Terrapin Station reissue, so maybe the master's returned to the Vault after all...
Checking the Taper's Section, Lemieux did play Scarlet>Fire from 5/8 back in 2008 (not necessarily from the master), but it's noticeable that for all the May '77 shows included there, there have been NO other selections from 5/5 through 5/9.

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Jun 2, 2011 10:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

Maybe Rhino is looking to package the whole month together ala Europe 72 as a box set because many heads believe that is some of the Dead's best stuff, but not a stupid question at all to ask and actually it could turn into a good thread and all of us may get more info about the whole month of shows!

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Poster: deadheadnorway Date: Jun 2, 2011 11:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I would sure love to have that month beautifully packaged. The music deserves it.
Come on Rhino.

I would also like to see a commercial release of the Robert F. Kennedy Stadium show from 1973-06-10. I mean, having access to the Swing, Barton and Kennedy shows is nice, but to have it neatly packaged and in official form would be really really great.

When it come to the music, I am all floored and full of goose bumps when it comes to these three shows.

Thank you for all the kind answers. : )

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Poster: jumscheidgd67 Date: Jun 2, 2011 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

wrong post

This post was modified by jumscheidgd67 on 2011-06-02 19:51:34

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I read an interview once where someone asked that (to David Lemieux, I think) in regards to 5/8/77. As I recall, the reason he gave was that "everybody already has it." Maybe someone else can recall more specifically or accurately.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

It's not a stupid question (though there's no guarantee you won't get some stupid answers). My feeling is that it wouldn't make much commercial sense to market something that is already pretty much freely available in decent quality to anyone who wants it - but no doubt someone will tell me I'm just being stupid!

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Poster: deadheadnorway Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I admit to "having access" to the shows in question. But still, if they were released I would buy them any day, and I believe many would too. Just to have them, for real. It would have made a nice Dicks Picks 37 and 38.

But I understand what you are saying. Thanks for the answer. : )

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 2, 2011 6:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I hope things are better, if not, a bit better for our 'wordsmith. :-)

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jun 2, 2011 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

not a stupid question. if 5/8 isn't in the vault, what's the deal then with 2/26? it's not a favorite of mine but i agree that a lot of folks would be buying this one up...

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Poster: deadheadnorway Date: Jun 2, 2011 12:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I have most of the Road Trips, and I like em. But Dicks Picks was more of an occasion, and a celebration of the music of GD than Road Trips are.

Maybe is time to revive DP`s series. And end on a not so uneven number. I`d love to have DP 50 on my shelf.

And is 2/26 in the vault??

Kind regards from the land of the midnight sun.

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Poster: jumscheidgd67 Date: Jun 2, 2011 12:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

My guess is that after the passing of Dick latvala and the passing of tourches to David Lemieux for the deciding of what would become a Dick's Picks stretched away too far from who created the original Dick's Picks. I mean David produced Dick's Picks 16 - 36 and now has produced all of the Road Trips. It is just a moving on from the Dick Latvala archiving era!! And we all bless him for his wonderful work!!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 2, 2011 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A stupid question perhaps.

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't believe 5/8/77 is in the vault.